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How high can a deck go before it needs an engineer?
There are three heights where a deck stops being a weekend project. Set the deck below and the demonstration tells you which side of each one you are on, and what changes when you cross it.
More than 600 mm (23 9/16 in) up you need a building permit.
More than 1.8 m (5 ft 10 13/16 in) up, the foundation and the foundation to post connection need an engineer stamped design submitted with the application, and any manufactured guard needs its evaluation report or engineer stamped specifications too. At 1.8 m (5 ft 10 13/16 in) the deck also starts counting toward your site coverage.
More than 3.6 m (11 ft 9 11/16 in) up, the entire deck needs an engineer stamped design: foundation, columns, beams, joists, guards, stringers, bracing and every connection.
These are the City of Edmonton thresholds. Every authority sets its own, so confirm yours.
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What height means, exactly
Deck height is the greatest vertical distance between the deck walking surface and the lowest adjacent finished ground level. Not the average. Not the height at the door. The worst corner.
On a sloping lot that single definition moves a deck across two or three thresholds at once, which is why a deck that looks like 1 m (39 5/16 in) off the ground at the house can be an engineered structure at the far corner.
The three heights, and what actually changes
More than 600 mm (23 9/16 in): a building permit
The deck stops being a patio and becomes a structure. You need a building permit, you need a guard, and you get an inspection. The prescriptive tables still do all the work.
More than 1.8 m (5 ft 10 13/16 in): an engineer on the foundation
Three things change at once.
- The foundation and the foundation to post connection need an engineer stamped design with the application.
- Any manufactured metal, vinyl or glass guard needs its CCMC evaluation report, its testing report, or Alberta engineer stamped drawings, submitted too.
- The deck starts counting toward site coverage, the share of the lot covered by buildings and structures, which can matter on a tight lot.
The reason the foundation is singled out is that the taller the post, the more the footing has to resist overturning rather than just bearing weight. That is not something a prescriptive pad table can cover.
More than 3.6 m (11 ft 9 11/16 in): an engineer on everything
At this height the City wants a site specific stamped design for the whole thing, named part by part: foundation, columns, beams, joists, guards, stringers, bracing, and every connection including the ledger to the house frame, joists to ledger, joists to beam, beam to posts and posts to foundation.
Bracing is worth pulling out. No specific lateral support to columns is required when the underside of the joists is not more than 600 mm (23 9/16 in) off the ground. Above that, bracing is a judgement, diagonal members from the corner posts into the deck frame are usually adequate, and more than 3.6 m (11 ft 9 11/16 in) up it is engineered like everything else.
Three things besides height that bring an engineer
- Area over 55 square metres (592 square feet), on a deck that needs a permit. The foundation needs an engineer stamped design whatever the foundation type, and the plans get reviewed. A 24 ft by 25 ft deck is over the line, and needs that design once it needs a permit: more than 600 mm (23 9/16 in) up, or in a front yard. With no permit the City reviews no plans, but the code still governs the footings: it lets them stay above the frost line on rock, on coarse-grained soil that drains well, or under a deck of not more than 55 square metres (592 square feet) with its joists within 600 mm (23 9/16 in) of the ground, so on other soils a larger deck's footings still go below frost, about 1.2 m (47 3/16 in), or are designed.
- An extraordinary load. A hot tub, a built in fireplace or large barbecue, a roof over the deck, a gazebo. Each of them needs a stamped design for the deck and its connections. Setting a hot tub on the ground and framing around it usually avoids this, and Edmonton says so, as long as every service point on the tub stays reachable.
- Screw piles, helical piles or torque piles. They are not defined in the Alberta code, so they are designed by an engineering professional whatever the height. On a deck more than 1.8 m (5 ft 10 13/16 in) up that design comes in with the application.
Why this is worth knowing before you draw anything
An engineer stamped design is not a disaster. It is a few hundred dollars and a week or two, and it is what the tall deck honestly needs. What costs money is discovering it after the holes are dug, because the design may put the footings somewhere else.
The cheapest move on a tall deck is to work out the height at the worst corner on day one, before the shape is settled, and design to the side of the line you want to be on.
- City of Edmonton, Uncovered Deck Design Guide, Sections 1 and 2, for the 600 mm (23 9/16 in), 1.8 m (5 ft 10 13/16 in) and 3.6 m (11 ft 9 11/16 in) thresholds, the 55 square metres (592 square feet) area trigger, the extraordinary load list, the screw pile position and the lateral bracing note.
- National Building Code of Canada, Part 9, for the underlying requirements the Alberta Edition amends, among them the depth of footings and when a deck's footings may stay above the frost line (Article 9.12.2.2).
Nothing on this page is an approval or a design. Code editions change and every authority having jurisdiction has the final word. Check your numbers with yours before you build.